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Saturday, June 17, 2006

AWACS in training and exercises on 9/11

Quotes from the Code One magazine article Conversation With Major General Larry Arnold, Commander, 1st Air Force, Tyndall AFB, Florida
People were generating aircraft and getting airborne. The Northeast Air Defense Sector diverted some tankers to support the fighters covering New York. Our picture over DC was pretty poor. And the communication was poor. So the aircrews themselves coordinated the refueling and the combat air patrols. An AWACS flying a training mission nearby arrived. The AWACS could talk to the Northeast Sector and provide a better picture to them.

Another AWACS was flying a training mission off the coast of Florida. President Bush was in Sarasota. We moved the AWACS towards the president. Then we received tasking from the Secret Service through the Joint Staff and NORAD to follow the president and protect him. I had set up an arrangement with their wing commander at Tinker some months earlier for us to divert their AWACS off a normal training mission to go into an exercise scenario simulating an attack on the United States. The AWACS crew initially thought we were going into one of those simulations.
Could this live-fly exercise scenario involving AWACS and "simulating an attack on the United States" have been Amalgam Warrior, which has been linked in the past with exercises such as Global Guardian and Vigilant Guardian? If the Fall '01 Amalgam Warrior (east coast CINCNORAD exercise) had been moved up from the typical October time frame (as Global Guardian was) then that would have put it in fiscal year '01 instead of fiscal year '02. Therefore, it would likely be known as Amalgam Warrior 01-3 if it did occur. What exercise(s) were the AWACS participating in on 9/11?) Amalgam Warrior seems typically to involve intercepts, hijackings, and such things. Hmm... How would these exercises have affected the events of 9/11? The Commission would have you believe that NORAD was extra prepared because of exercises. The FAA dropped the ball. The FAA disputes this, saying that within minutes of the first plane hitting the WTC they established phone bridges wherein they were communicating events in real time. Official notice may have been given at the times stated by the 9/11 Commission, but that hardly means that the FAA was not making NORAD and other agencies aware of things as they unfolded before they made official announcements.

Saturday, June 03, 2006

WTC 7







(Thanks to wtc7.net for the animated image and video links)

Once again, another topic which can hardly be done justice to short of a book length posting, so I will just bring up a few points about it (in addition to what I've already mentioned) and add a few links which readers can use their skepticism about in terms of discerning the validity (or not) of the arguments presented.

I strongly recommend viewing at least one of the videos of the collapse of WTC 7 (preferably at least one which also includes the collapse of the east penthouse a few seconds before the rest of the building collapses)

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc-7_1_.gif
http://whatreallyhappened.com/wtc7big.rm
http://whatreallyhappened.com/7collapse.avi












Close comparison of the two photos (one from the video inserted within the other) will show that while the photographers may have been elbow to elbow to get their shots, there were two cameras used to take them. Look at how far WTC 7 has fallen for the timing of the shots. Look at the alignment of the rear passenger window in relationship with the building on the right side of the picture. Look at the space visible between the car and the Police van across the street. Clearly close cousins, but two cameras. Then compare the buildings on the left and right sides of the high quality photos with the same buildings shown in FEMA's Figure 5-23 (page 26) (I would upload a copy, but the ones I've seen copied lose too much resolution in the shadows, so best to compare directly). You'll see that a third photographer (credited to Roberto Rabanne, but so are the video stills FEMA shows which are clearly from an elevated perspective since you can look down on the roofs of buildings, so I'm not sure who took which shots)was taking shots from perhaps half a block or so further back. I wonder how many photographers there were standing around on that street just waiting to capture the big moment on film? Anyway, that was fun. Now let's take a look at what we can find as far as photographic evidence of damage to the south face of WTC 7 shall we?
According to FEMA in at least in one mention of figure 5-16 (a copy of which is shown below- the one with the red box in it) it shows
damage to the southwest corner of WTC 7 at approximately floors 8 to 20, 24, 25, and 39 to 46
But, if we compare with figure 5-17 and count down from the top of this 47 story building we can see that the burn damage on the west face of the building is at floors 29-30. Using that as a reference point, we can see that the side of the Verizon building (and/or smoke) obstructs the view of all floors below the 16th or thereabouts. Note that the angle and positioning of the camera make the wedding cake layering shape of the Verizon building appear rather like big gouges are missing from it; a front on perspective of the damage on to the Verizon building shows this to be a trick of the angle. See below:

But, never fear, FEMA, I'll help you out and provide another image of the damage

I can see damage there down to about floor 10 or thereabouts. Once again, however, I notice a photographic perpective angle which seem to me to be chosen for a psychological effect. When one actually counts across on each floor level to see how many windows one can see undamaged on each floor, for instance, the damage does not appear as great as it does at first glance at that photo. Not to minimize the damage which did occur, but let's put it in a bit of perspective, shall we? The following photo shows the damage to the Banker's Trust Building, which was closer to the South tower than WTC 7 was to the North tower (which supposedly damaged it sufficiently that fires later made it collapse).
Oddly enough, the Banker's Trust building did not collapse. I've yet to see a photograph showing damage even that extensive to the south face of WTC 7. Wouldn't something like that be worth documenting on a building which apparently some people on 9/11 thought was going to come down that day?



For further skeptical reading on WTC 7, you might try Chapter 5 of the FEMA report and/or WTC 7's annotated version of that report. The 9/11 Commission didn't seem to have anything to say on the topic, as I've mentioned previously.

You might also try NIST's report, though I'm not certain whether or not this is actually their final version.

You might want to keep in mind the observed length of time it takes WTC 7 to fall from roof height to the ground (or alternately towards ground level in 5 seconds) in comparison to the time claimed for a significantly shorter (13 apartment stories + 3 parking garage stories) partially completed building to undergo progressive collapse mentioned previously as follows:
The entire structure collapsed, first the west tower and then the east tower, in 5 seconds, only 2.5 seconds longer than it would have taken an object to free fall from that height. source
. Unfortunately, that quote is of limited usefulness, since it talks about 2 different towers. The difficulty in such a progressive collapse explanation is that each successive floor provides resistance to the collapse. If the top layer collapses onto the one below it, the one below has to begin moving towards the ground from a rest acceleration position. If the collapse begins from (or near) the bottom of the building (as was apparently the case with WTC 7, then each bottom floor has to be crushed (or pulverized) by the floors above it in order for the collapse to proceed. Does the observed collapse timing, movement and resulting debris pile correspond well with similarly observed times and movements on non controlled demolition collapses? I don't know. It would be nice to have more data about such things.

If you are interested in looking at some of the information regarding a controlled demolition explanation for the collapses, I would recommend Steven Jones's paper as a good place to start research on that topic. Once again, be skeptical of all of these sources is my recommendation.

In conclusion

Given all the information I have looked at in writing this multi part essay, I feel that research and documentation of possible 9/11 evidence would be a valuable pursuit for concerned citizens, academic professionals and military and intelligence officials worldwide. I feel that thorough documentation and fact checking is very necessary. I consider it to be a likely possibility that there is a significant degree of disinformation which has been used to discredit and/or discourage and confuse those who would seek the truth about the events of 9/11. I also feel that potentially significant information has been made less accessible and/or changed in the years following 9/11.

I feel that the strongest arguments in a quest for a true accounting will seek to compare verifiable data from pre- 9/11 with the events of 9/11. Using information or events which have only surfaced in the post 9/11 world in comparison leaves open the possibility that that data may be suspect.

I may continue to add and make slight modifications to the web pages in this essay (such as adding links to sourced material, adding tags and cross linking the posts, for example), but for the most part I would like to leave them mostly as they stand. They may not be perfect and I'm sure they show my biases, but so be it. At some point one has to say "good enough". If I encounter new evidence which I want to bring forth, I will do that separately and link to it from the bottom of this page.

Friday, June 02, 2006

my new Eli Lake diary post

Well, I've been working on it for a few days now, but it's finally up. You can check it out at Daily Kos. It's long. Neocon notes and quotes - featuring Eli Lake

Thursday, June 01, 2006

Some Richard Perle quotes reported by Eli Lake

Iranian Dissident to Seek Support For Opposition
The admiration is mutual. Of Mr. Fakhravar, Mr. Perle said, "He is very impressive. I formed that opinion by talking to him on the telephone. It is even more evident in person. He is obviously a man of great courage and conviction. He has been enormously frustrated at the lack of outside support, not just from the United States but the free world generally."



Pentagon Is Winner Over CIA By ELI LAKE
- Staff Reporter of the Sun


May 8, 2006


reposted here




The former chairman of the Defense Policy Board, Richard Perle, said he does not expect the next CIA director to have better luck with leakers. "The crackdown on leaking will make people more careful," he said, adding that leakers at the CIA will just get information out through former CIA officers who are cleared to get the information.





"Until they get serious about leaks, which is to put people on polygraphs after every major leak, it is going to go on. Remember, this is an institution that is steeped in covert operations and misinformation. We train people to lie and we are shocked when they lie."




RAID ON CHALABI’S HEADQUARTERS WAS DISCUSSED IN WHITE HOUSE
Makiya, a Rights Activist, Also Gets a Visit



In Washington, supporters of Mr. Chalabi were shocked at the decision by American authorities to raid his house.



A scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, Richard Perle, said, “As far as I know, the CPA has not arrested a single individual responsible for acts on Americans. And they managed to find the resources to go after the INC. I think this is appalling, a disgrace.”




WHITE HOUSE ORDERED SEVERING TIES TO CHALABI OVER IRAN LEAKS



Free Iraqi Leader Offers To Address Congress




A scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, Richard Perle, said, “I don’t believe he has ever been given top U.S. classified information, let alone anything of a highly classified nature….I believe the whole operation is politically motivated. The accusations, the embellishment of the accusations, I believe this is fundamentally malicious and politically motivated by people who became fearful that Ahmad Chalabi might emerge as a major figure in Iraq.”




COMMITTEE ON PRESENT DANGER IS BEING REVIVED



Lieberman, Kyl Focus On Islamic Terror STRATEGY FOR VICTORY SOUGHT




"Speaking from his summer home in France, Mr. Perle told the Sun he plans on joining the committee when he returns to America. He said the real rift within the Republican Party today was with what he called “paleoconservatives.”



“They are reverting to a brand of isolationism. If they understood the danger, they would be prepared to make a more robust effort to counter it. The emphasis of the Democratic party is on easy ways of providing security like signing agreements. They don’t like taking risks or resorting to the use of force,” he said."



Undersecretary of Defense Feith Quits; Strong Proponent of the War in Iraq



"Mr. Perle said that didn't surprise him: "He gets up every day at 4 am and leaves the office at 7 pm He doesn't have any time to spend with his four young children. And that is a relationship that is very important to him."



Rice Tells Mullahs That Democracy On the Way to Iran reposted here



"Mr. Perle said that through his conversations with Mr Batebi he is persuaded that the opposition in Iran yearns to hear the kind of words Ms. Rice said yesterday. "They are hoping to get a message through to the administration, they need moral support, there has been no suggestion that they want military intervention or anything like that. They want Americans to know they have been deprived of basic human rights and want Americans to support them," Mr. Perle said."





Bush Poised To Move His Afghanistan Envoy to Baghdad



"Richard Perle was also pleased by the news. "He's very capable. He has done an excellent job in Afghanistan. He has White House experience which will be invaluable in his service as ambassador in Baghdad," he said yesterday"



Senator Voinovich Forces a Delay In Bolton Vote



"A friend of Mr. Bolton and former Pentagon adviser, Richard Perle, said yesterday that the delay in the vote was a "setback." "It's a setback, but it is by no means lost," he said.





Carney Upends Democrats in Pennsylvania



"Mr. Perle, who was Mr. Jackson's national security adviser, said he would support Mr. Carney's candidacy. "I think he is a very smart, capable guy," he said."



Bush To Detail Diplomatic Priorities



An adviser to the president during his 2000 campaign, Richard Perle, said, "If I were a dictator I would start to worry about this. Regimes that mistreat their own people will ultimately mistreat others. The president is going to do what he can to counter them."




Mr. Perle, one of the top advisors to the governor on foreign policy, said that he was sure Mr. Bush would oppose pressuring Israel to make concessions with which it was uncomfortable. "Any public figure is going to be cautious commenting about the details of a sensitive negotiation of which he is not fully informed. If the results are unsatisfactory," Mr. Perle added, "I have no doubt Governor Bush will make his view very clear."
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Critics of the Clinton administration's Iraq policy point out that Mr. Gore sent the INC a similar letter of support in 1993, but that America later abandoned the group, leaving scores of Iraqi freedom fighters to be slaughtered when Saddam's forces moved into Northern Iraq in 1996. The administration has also lagged in implementing the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998. "This is the same administration that has sabotaged the Iraq Liberation Act at every opportunity. They have refused to spend the money allocated, they have done the utmost to sow dissension among the Iraqi people. Their idea of a concrete proposal is sending wooden desks to London for the use of the Iraqi opposition," said a man who served as assistant secretary of defense during the Reagan administration, Richard Perle. Mr. Perle is a foreign-policy adviser to Governor Bush.
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